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January 15, 2012 at 9:20 am #32394
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Annet

Hi,

I have to do a convincing presentation thing and I decided that I could convince my classmates that the word nerd is not negative.
I found to things why: When you study your chances of a better job are higher and tell them some of them are nerd too (I know their are some in class).
Can anyone think of more?
Or can you tell why nerdfighteria makes the word ‘nerd’ positive?

Anyway thanks for opening this topic.
Bye,
Annet

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January 15, 2012 at 9:58 am #32407
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Mhairi

There’s a vlogbrothers video on this! I think it’s called ‘Shakespearean Insults’ or ‘Nerdy Insults’ or something like that.

January 15, 2012 at 12:58 pm #32446
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jossy

I suggest you watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMweXVWB918

Or if you can’t be bothered here’s something particularly poignant he says about the nature of being a nerd in the video:

“Because nerds like us are allowed to be unironically enthusiastic about stuff. We don’t have to be like, “oh yeah, that purse is ok,” or like, “yeah, I like that band’s early stuff.” Nerds are allowed to love stuff, like jump-up-and-down-in-the-chair-can’t-control-yourself, love it. Hank, when people call people nerds mostly what they’re saying is “you like stuff” which is just not a good insult at all, like, “you are too enthusiastic about the miracle of human consciousness.”

January 15, 2012 at 1:20 pm #32453
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Luke

There’s also the small matter of when the term “nerd” was taken as an insult, it was of the stereotypical nerd. The one who sits in front of a computer in his basement, has no life apart from whatever’s on the screen..and, in fact, is locked in his own little world alone. That’s the stereotype anyway.

I think in order to show that “nerd” isn’t an insult, you need to go deeper than the word. You need to define exactly what a nerd is. There’s the stereotype, yes, but go beyond that. A nerd isn’t simply someone who is passionate about something. Very rarely is a passionate football player referred to as a nerd. No, it’s the ones who are mroe academic, who are enthusiastic about something that isn’t clearly defined in society as “having a life”. I.e. Books, Science Fiction TV shows etc. It all goes back to the hobbies that were previously associated with the stereotype outlined above. I think the oppression of these hobbies comes from the US media’s emphasis on sports, how to succeed in life you need to not be reading piles of books..because that’s academic. Brawn over brains, if you will.

However,society has branched out. Those hobbies have become recognised as worthwhile, and even encouraged in people outside of the narrow educational system. Now, very few will call someone a nerd, simply because what they do is more socially accepted. The word, however, has remained with negative connotations, but very few people would be able to explain to you why it is a negative word in the first place, no more than people could back up why “faggot” is an insult…yes, it is a harsh word for homosexuals, but why was it an insult in the first place. If we look back, all it is is a term for a bale of hay?

I probably went off the track a bit, but I hope that you can get something out of it. Now I must go write about why the internet and reading are important to me :p

January 15, 2012 at 2:09 pm #32469
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Annet

Thank you so much!

January 15, 2012 at 3:51 pm #32496
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Simon

Being a nerd is simply a good thing, when you are a nerd yes there tend to be bullies who will take the piss out of you for being a nerd, I never really minded being called a nerd, because I take it as a complement, I take it to mean, “You are more intelligent then me, have a far more useful set of skills, and are likely to have a good future in life and have really awesome friends!”
And I think that’s all I have to say to say on that

January 15, 2012 at 4:43 pm #32522
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Julia

Everyone is a nerd in their own respect. There is a set by Donald Glover saying exactly that. People who like sports are sports nerds. People who like art are art nerds, and so on.
Just because you like something and people call you a nerd for that, doesn’t mean they are insulting you at all. They’re a nerd too.

January 15, 2012 at 5:53 pm #32562
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Becky

I think the John quote that has been mentioned already sums it up nicely. But if someone calls you a nerd, it’s only an insult to you if you let it be.

In the basic sense, everyone is a nerd about something. Acknowledging it doesn’t change anything.

January 15, 2012 at 6:04 pm #32573
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Luke

Hi, me again. I’m just popping in to say that I personally don’t think that that John quote sums it up nicely at all. It ocvers one aspect, an aspect that is not directly associated with being a “nerd” in the usual sense of the word. There’s a lot more to it than that, just like with most labels. That quote only scratches the surface.

If I was to have one problem with nerdfighteria (and trust me, it’s hard to have a problem with it) it’s that a lot of them don’t think. They just hear what one of the brothers say and take it as the ultimate truth. Essentially many of us forget that the Green brothers are as human as the rest of us, and their opinion is, just like this one, just an opinion.

As I said, it is my humble opinion, that one quote cannot possibly sum up something that is so broad. It misses a lot, and that’s why I’m glad that this forum exists..to discuss things, not just take them at face value. Maybe you could say that I’m a bit of a nerd for that…or maybe you’d say that it’s very anti-nerd or anti-nerdfighter of me to say all this.

Don’t judge me too harshly :)

January 15, 2012 at 6:09 pm #32576
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Meagan

nerds have a negative connotation with our persons because of the way media has presented nerds to us throughout our adolescence. i genuinely believe that this way we’ve been represented does us complete injustice. nerds are some of the most passionate, intelligent, witty, hilarious people you will ever meet. we’re good people because with our knowledge of our own behaviour we can successfully avoid fighting and drama and focus on the things that we love. if you need any other reasons this video pretty much highlights the biggest perks of being a nerd. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0bSqMEBtJc

January 15, 2012 at 7:23 pm #32638
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Jonathan

even my teachers think the word ‘nerd’ is some kind of an insult.

January 15, 2012 at 7:38 pm #32645
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Alexandra

i think it’s annoying how society views “nerd” as an derogatory term. to me, the word is seen as a negative word by the majority of society because it’s a way for people who are jealous of someone’s intelligence to feel as though they’re superior. but i’ve always seen being a nerd a good thing. maybe that’s just because i do consider myself a nerd, though?

January 15, 2012 at 7:54 pm #32659
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Annet

I never expected so much answers. Writing things to convince people is something I’m not very good at that’s why I started this. I first though I just close the topic after I finish my homework but I decide to leave it open for discussion.

January 17, 2012 at 9:34 pm #35449
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Simon

Ahh, but I think something missing here is that while being a nerd does make you a good or even intelligent person, I have know many people and still know many people who thing of themselves as nerds, and for the most part I would say they are, but they are are also other things, such as assholes.

Some people who are nerds let things go to their head and become “superior” assholes. Or some people who are mocked for being a nerd(and read carefully and don’t miss understand this point) in school, leave school and while they are still nerds they think because they were bullied, they now have the right to dish it right back out on to someone else.

I must also agree with @Luke some of the nerdfights out here do take the vlogbrothers opinions as ‘truths’ however no opinion no matter how many people agree with it is the ‘truth’ it does not become a fact by being believed by a large group of people.

So listen to their opinions and think about them and even use them to form your own. I think that most goes to the younger nerdfighters, I know myself that when I was younger I did take other peoples opinion as fact at times, and now it is something I try very hard not to do. It is one of the reason I like SxsPhil so much, he is all about promoting opinions(and booty).

I think thats enough of a rant for now. And now please use my opinion to help form your opinion, if you find it seems to fit fairly well.

February 4, 2012 at 2:57 pm #48721
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Jerky Malloy

It is. John was wrong.

March 10, 2012 at 6:40 pm #64976
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Annie

@gaypher sir, you are sadly mistaken.

I think that any term used to describe how a person is is obviously not an insult, even if it’s used like one.
Jock, Baptist, Indian, Gay, they’re all used to describe people.
How can just /being/ something be bad?
What you are and how you act are two completely different things.
Racist, Pessimist, Homophobic…
These are insults.
Things you can’t change have been slapped with a negative connotation, because that’s where it hurts. If you’re being made fun of for the things you like or the things you are, then that is a terribly stupid thing.

March 12, 2012 at 6:19 pm #66167
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Jerky Malloy

@spaghettification
“Racist,” “pessimist” and “homophobe” are also descriptors. So’s “terribly stupid.” How can just being any of those things be bad? Or do you use the terms emptily and meaninglessly, to besmirch the character of those to whom they’re patently unapplicable?

It’s all a matter of values. If I think being a nerd is bad, when I call you a nerd, it’s negative. If you think being a homophobe is bad, when you call me one, that’s negative. Blim blam.

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